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I couldn't even FINISH it ...it was one of the worst written books ever. Crichton is not great....and Andromeda Strain the movie was probably better than the book....I don't know HOW he gets included apart from books sales....he is basically sci fi for people who don't read sci fi....
All the other FABULOUS writers out there...
Atlas Shrugged is garbage because it's boring and I disagree with Ayn Rand's worldviews in general.
Also, you generally disagreeing with Ayn Rand world views kind of qualifies you to think that she's garbage, not the other way around.
http://www.amazon.com/Distraction-Bruce-Sterlin...
I was thinking about leaving it off because it is oh so bad. I put it on the list because despite the fact that it's almost completely unreadable because the Wal*Mart set needs their Sci-Fi too. I wanted the list to cover as broad a spectrum of sci-fi as I could without making it 100 items long.
I left off a lot of greats including:
Vernor Vinge
Dan Simmons
Arthur C Clarke
Iain M. Banks
etc . . .
Why is Rand on this list? Well, besides the Bible (go figure) Atlas Shrugged is apparently the most influential book ever written. Do I agree with the whole Objectivist shtick? Not hardly but it still worth mentioning.
Leave suggestions, as many as you want. If you don't see it on the list it probably would have been there if I had remembered it while I was compiling.
Seriously, at some point you lost focus on what your list was supposed to be about.
All of the authors that you left off are more deserving than many of the books that did make it.
There are books on this list that you won't like (Giver and Timeline) but tons of people do and that's why I included them. They were influential in their own right, even if they aren't your cup of tea.
If I put together a list of my favorite sci fi books, there are about a dozen others I would have included.
You make a good point though, thanks.
|My own suggestion would be "The Stand" but I'm sure these illiterati would consider is commercial and bland.
Two Crichton books? Only Andromeda Strain belongs.
Two Dick books and three Gibsons? Those should've been grouped as 1 with room for other books.
For example, Alfred Bester's brilliant Stars My Destinaion.
heartrending poetry. "Way Station" by Simak, I think, and
the under-appreciated "Davy" by Pangborn, also I put in that
class. All standouts as novels, as full of muscled up ideas
and people as any novel, much less a science fiction
novel.
Best.
Sci-Fi Book.
Ever.
And why does a scifi novel have to be full of social commentary to be considered good?
Some of these books are good. It just the same crap that has been touted as teh best evar!!1!!11! for the past twenty years. Expand your horizons, boys.
Also no Ursula K LeGuin. The Left Hand of Darkness.
Also no CJ Cherryh. Foreigner series.
Also no Connie Willis. To Say Nothing of the Dog, Doomsday Book.
I am sensing a pattern here...
You might also want to consider reading something written since 1990 that wasn't written by William Gibson. Try Nancy Kress, Gwyneth Jones, Maureen F. McHugh, Susan Palwick, Karen Traviss, Sarah Zettel, or Elizabeth Bear (which I wouldn't have thought was possible: she's ubiquitous right now)...
I also rec'd Butler's Xenogenesis... amazing series.
include some walter jon williams -- i personally like aristoi, which takes the idea of meritocracy and expands it to its space opera potential. his recent works take up this mantle as well.
It's a tragedy that most fans today do not know his work. Planoforming, underpeople, the Instrumentality...ground-breaking, epic, insert platitude here.
Vinge and Clarke are notable omissions, as is Canticle. Clarke being the most egregious.
I can't recommend Accelerando enough. It's pretty new, so it's not a classic like Foundation or 1984 or something, but the ideas that Stross bring up are very creative and intriguing. You will definitely like this one.
Timeline was garbage. How the hell did it make this list?
knew that one would draw some flack.
I recently did my thesis paper in high school on Isaac Asimov, so I have a few suggestions regarding his books. Foundation and I, Robot are pretty good, but to be honest, the writing in them is only okay and certain parts of it are ridiculous (i.e. the dialogue). Foundation is stunning when one first reads it, but upon further examination, the devices used to advance the plot are pretty weak. I, Robot has its strong points--namely, the last two stories--but the author clearly hadn't mastered manipulation of the three laws at that point. Robots do things which Asimov decides in later stories just don't make sense when it comes to the three laws. ("Runaround," for example, is kind of stupid. He just randomly decides that robots act crazy when they are confused by the three laws.)
I would say that Asimov's best books are The End of Eternity and The Gods Themselves. The former is about time-travel, which is a subject which never gets old. The later is one of his later science-fiction books, and has a fascinating and genius portrayal of an alien race in an alternate universe with different laws of physics. He allows the reader to relate to the aliens, even though they behave completely differently from us. Nonetheless, Foundation and I, Robot are important books when it comes to science fiction and are worth reading.
Snow Crash is one of my all time favorites, but all the other ones that I have read on the list were excellent too.
by kozo abe
Also, how about The Martian Chronicles by Bradbury?
however strongly biased to the west. The most important authors not mentioned in the list is Roadside Picnic by Boris and Arkady Strugatsky one of basics of SCiFi as well as Stanislaw Lem and titles like Fiasco.
however strongly biased to the west. The most important authors not mentioned in the list is Roadside Picnic by Boris and Arkady Strugatsky one of basics of SCiFi as well as Stanislaw Lem and titles like Fiasco.
I just read a book called "Spin" that I really liked. I'd recommend that one.
Cryptonomicon is the definitive Neal Stephenson novel but Snow Crash is really great too.
Arthur C. Clarke's "Childhood's End" is one of my all time favorites.
Stephen King's "Dark Tower" is probably fantasy, not SF, but I love it too much not to mention.
Destiny's Children trilogy by Stephen Baxter. Taught me a lot about emergence points, transhumanism, evolution, etc.
Pat Cadigan, I think it was called Mindplayers
Hyperion, ***, Dan Simmons, +10
***, Octavia Butler, +1
Altas Shrugged, ***, Ayn Rand, -100
***, Michael Crichton, -100
Compelled to state: I really enjoy anthologies. Lots of exposure to lots of authors that I wouldn't otherwise have the wherewithal to discover and read.
Kudos to you!
And why the hell is Atlas Shrugged on this list? Wouldn't something like l'Engle's "A Wrinkle in Time" be more fitting?
Benjamin
And I totally agree with A Canticle for Leibowitz.
Also "Replay" was a great book.. Ken Grimwood was understandably upset when the movie "Groundhog Day" came out. He was hoping to have his book made into a movie, but "GD" shut that possibility out. IMHO "Replay" would be a MUCH better movie.
I would highly recommend both these books to all true Sci Fi readers.
Recommendation: The John Varley Reader
Varley has been one of my favorite writers for years, and this book is why. This is a collection of his short stories, on the 30th anniversary of the publishing of his first one. I read most of these stories during my formative years, and they in no small part shaped my vision of What The Future Will Be Like. Most of these stories have been out of print for some time, and there are a few in here I hadn't seen before. Every story in this book is fantastic. If you never take another piece of my advice on a book, take this one: I can't recommend it highly enough.
finally someone who reads -real- SCIENCE fiction, not sagas full of strange names
I think there are a couple of classics that should be added ... like Roadside Picnic, by brothers Strugatsky, or Us, by Yevgeny Zamyatin
Childhood's End by Arthur C. Clark
Friday is also good, even tho he tends to portray even his strong his female characters in a somewhat paternalistic way, But a product of the times I guess.
I'm going through a few of these now on my Reader.
Just cuz I'm a huge Clarke nerd I'd like to add Childhood's End to the list!
It's an hors d'oeuvre of a book, and a pretty satisfying read.
I will say one thing for the early years of Sci-fi, it fueled the imaginations of the young to go forth and create many of those wondrous things they could only read about from the minds of the few. It was a wide open unknown frontier back then ripe for exploration.
Armor was mentioned, pretty good. Is Starship Troopers up there?
The Blind Spot by Homer Eon Flint and Austin Hall (1921).
Surprised there's no Burroughs on here....
a. Share a (relatively) broad set of Science Fiction books that I have read.
b. Solicit other opinions on the subjects (unfortunately, I haven't read everything though I wish I had).
As for the "must not reads" -
I think Timeline is worth reading if only because it (for whatever reason) is widely read. It's widely read enough for people to have a clear picture of why they hate it. I also think people should see certain "bad" movies (maybe it's just me).
The "is not Sci Fi" debate -
I would argue that Atlas Shrugged is Sci-Fi (speculative fiction) but it's steeped in politics which drowns it out for a lot of people. It's also included because it's so critically acclaimed, despite the fact that it's also just drowning in over the top Objectivist screed.
Thanks again for the comment, I hope this explains my reasoning.
Crichton and Richard Morgan's Altered Carbon both ought to be skipped, as they embody the negative tendencies in science fiction that I wrote about in literature, science fiction, and the haters, as well as its followup.
One commenter bemoaned the lack of Ursula K. Le Guin, which I will amplify: The Left Hand of Darkness and The Lathe of Heaven deserve their reputations.
Evolutions Shore beats the crap out of some.
Walden 2, by B.F. Skinner, is closer.
Never Let Me Go, by Kazuo Ishiguro, is probably sci-fi. It's a great book.
As a couple of people mentioned, The Diamond Age, by Neal Stephenson, is really good. His Cryptonomicon isn't very sci-fi. Snow Crash is quite funny, especially the very beginning.
If you had to find sci-fi by Ayn Rand, you would have to choose Anthem.
Disagree. Atlas Shrugged is right up there with Kesey's Sometimes a Great Notion as rugged individualist fiction. Atlas Shrugged is an amazing book with many VALID points to be made.
Sadly a few die hard narrow minded Liberals deny the genius of Rand. These use the tired olld jibes of "right wing" and "denier". I'm quite amazed to see Neocon and Tinfoil hat missing from the description.
Probably they couldn't navigate the depths of her work.
I'm not a big fan of Crichton but he is still a ground breaking author.
By the way I've been a leftie since before you were a gleam in mommies eye. Hell I even smoked dope with Kesey.
Read Heinlein description about what REAL science fiction is.
Most on this list would be science fantasy or speculative fiction.
I've only read 13 of the ones on your list, I'm sad to say.
Rather than re-hash other peoples' suggestions (like The Martian Chronicles, for example), I'll offer two of my own:
1) A very recent (but still very awesome) one would be "The Time Traveler's Wife" by Audrey Niffenegger. It's one of a very few science fiction books that I feel has both a soul and a real heart. It's also made basically everyone I know who's read it (including people who loathe scifi) break down and cry by the end. Reading it in the middle of a year abroad in a place as far out as Ulaanbaatar really got to me, since it talks a lot about leaving, waiting, and living in the here and now as best you can.
2) Beyond that, one of my biggest favorites would be "A Fire Upon the Deep" by Vernor Vinge. Not only was it one of the inspirations for a lot of the mythos of Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri, it was also had a lot of neat metaphor/allegory regarding the development of the internet, and was generally just a damn good read.
ditto to Cordwainer Smith, LeGuin and Pohl (particularly the Cool War and The Space Merchants / with C M Kornbluth); ditto to wanting Sirens of Titan - also Cat's Cradle
also TJ Bass - and I confess to really enjoying some pulpy Van Vogt (Slan, Weapon Makers of Isher) - also A.A. Attanasio's Radix
If it went into the realms of fantasy, I'd want to be seeing some Jack Vance, Zelazny - I personally like Moorcock's Runestaff series, but it wouldn't be to everyone's taste - maybe even Good Omens by Pratchett and Gaiman
Someone standing next to me is saying Lem! Burnner! Benford! the Strugatsky brothers! Fred Hoyle! Diana Wynne Jones!
Everyone is just freaking out around here right about now and there is a titanic struggle taking place on the mats
amazing book.
I really hated snowcrash- written in such a juvenile style! all the others i've read that are on this list i loved, though.
I'm getting more good reading material from the comments than from the actual article. That's really nothing new though. It's getting to the point where a top SF list needs to be 100 or more to offer up anything not already well known.
And ... Crichton's Timeline? Ack. Are you serious? Crichton couldn't write his way out of ... er ... a paper bag. And this is one of his worst books.
Best Science Fiction Book List should include:
"The Stars My Destination" by Alfred Bester
"Night Walk" by Bob Shaw
"The End of Eternity" by Asimov
"The Chrysalids" by John Wyndham
"Flowers for Algernon" by Daniel Keyes
"Have Space Suit... Will Travel" by Heinlein
"Consider Phlebus" by Ian M Banks
"Use of Weapons" by Ian M Banks
"Intervention" from The Pliocene Saga by Julian May
I know that you specified novel, but I feel that everyone,
certainly, SF fans, should read the first "Dangerous Visions"
anthology of short stories.
I know that you specified novel, but I feel that everyone,
certainly, SF fans, should read the first "Dangerous Visions"
anthology of short stories.
Anyways THE addition to the list would have to be 'Number of The Beast' by Heinlien and of course The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
Also where are the classics by JG Ballard and Arthur C Clarke. They're considerably better than Timeline and crap like that. :)
Oh, puhleeeeze. Timeline is worth having in case you're in a bathroom at an airport and there's no paper on the roll. But other than that...
You've got some complete crap on this list, while leaving out classics like "The Demolished Man", "2001", "Foundation" etc. They're classics for a reason - people will be reading them long after some of the dreck you list is out of print. ("Animal farm" science fiction? Neither is "1984")
Stand on Zanzibar - John Brunner
Hot Sleep - Orson Scott Card
The lensman series - EE Doc Smith (a bit hard to get past the 50's sexism now though)
EON and Eternity
A couple I haven't read here though and a few more others have suggested, cool.
Oh Peter F. Hamilton and Clifford Simak should get a mention too. David Brin - the postman
Oh Dune too.
Any way good list.
And I'd be more impressed if we called it SF instead of sci-fi; that's the one thing I still agree with old Isaac on...
I would recommend "The Mote in God's Eye" as one of the best ever.
I somehow missed Snow Crash, so I'll be reading that one soon.
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- In addition to normal technologies, she introduces several fictional inventions, including refractor rays (Gulch mirage), Rearden Metal, a sonic death ray ("Project X"), motors powered by static electricity, and a sophisticated electrical torture device.
- Rand also mentioned technologies that were unavailable at the time, but which have since been invented. Examples are voice activated door locks (Gulch power station), and palm-activated door locks (Galt's NY lab).
If that's not textbook sci-fi, I don't know what is. Are you Rand critics sure you're not letting your biases political biases blind you to the sci-fi aspects of the book?
And I'd like to second Mote in God's Eye and add Macroscope.
Animal Farm sci fi? No.
C.J.Cherryh - The Chanur series (Pride of Chanur, Chanur's Venture &c.)
C.J.Cherryh - Downbelow Station
Joe Haldeman - The Forever War
Ian M Banks - Consider Phlebas
Ian M Banks - Excession
not extraordinarily well written, but entertaining none the less.
Arthur C Clarke-2001,2010,2061,3001
KS Robinson-Red Mars
Youre Next 50 Years-Prehoda
Planet of the Apes (book, not movies)
Logan's Run-Nolan
Contact-Sagan
Invasion of the Body Snatchers-?
Who Goes There ?(short story that was the basis for the Hawk's movie "The Thing"
The Man Who Fell to Earth
Alien-Foster
Rendevous with Rama-AC Clarke
Don't let all these malcontents get to you. A list like this is NEVER going to please everyone. Actually, it rarely pleases ANYONE.
You've done a very acceptable job of boiling down hundreds of thousands of books into an inclusive list. Yes, a couple of my favorites were left out, but it's not my list. You did hit my favorite - Dune - so I'm pleased. The internet often lets people who are too moronic to even spell correctly voice their opinion when commenting on researched content like yours. Don't waste a minute worrying about them. They will be saying "would you like fries with that?" for the next 40 years.
Good effort.
Kris
More importantly, if you take the time to parse through the comments there are a ton of excellent suggestions there that it would have taken weeks for me to come up with on my own.
Thanks again for dropping by!
Wanted to second some other recommendations that have come up:
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Heinlein. Truly inspirational, and still relevant even with the advanced computer featured (something many other books written in that era have not succeeded in doing.)
Forever War - Haldeman. Great book, good at addressing the time dilation issues of faster-than-light travel.
Mote in God's Eye - Niven and Pournelle. Excellent view of what encountering an alien species might be like, including many unanticipated consequences of a truly alien way of doing things.
". . . In addition to normal technologies, she introduces several fictional
inventions, including refractor rays (Gulch mirage), Rearden Metal, a
sonic death
ray <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_ray> ("Project X"), motors powered
by static electricity <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Static_electricity>, and
a sophisticated electrical torture
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torture>device."
ONE OF THE BEST SCI-FI BOOKS I HAVE EVER READ.
http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/The_Final_R...
If you're a Trekie, have read the Blish novelizations, remember the quieting spell before the first movie, etc., then take a look at this.
http://faves.com/url/2912249868/howtosplitanato...
Ender’s Game - Orson Scott Card it`s the best ever
The follow-up Urth of the New Sun wasn't quite up to the same standard, but still way ahead of most of the other suggestions in both the original list and the comments that I'm familiar with.
Along with Snow Crash, Friday describes what the future may well be.
Don't know who wrote it, but "The Stars, My Destination."
Michael Crichton doesn't belong anywhere near this list.
And what about Gateway?
Wasp by Eric Frank Russel
R.U.R. by Karel Capek
varied and stretch the boundaries a little. The result, fortunately
and unfortunately was great debate but also leaving out certain works
I might have otherwise included.
Thanks again and I hope you saw something there that made you think a
little differently about speculative fiction.
The Man who Folded Himself-?.Gerrold
I would also like to see Red Mars, Blue Mars and Green Mars on the list.
Wouldnt recommend 'Timeline'
Crichton is not a REAL Sci-Fi author- and
in recent years has become somewhat of a 'hack'-
Players scattered across the continent are engaged in a game. Each player has certain attributes, including skill, strength, courage, cunning, and daring. Each has his kingdom. Each can ally with or attack any of the others . . . But one player seems to have confused the reality of the game with the reality of the world: a player with the attributes of machinelike precision and mechanical ruthlessness. His name is Octagon, and he's out for blood. Even though he doesn't have any
number one is brave new world
but im very happily surprised that the giver was chosen. most people just shrug it off as a children's book and never give it the recognition it deserves. it's a very powerful novel for a 5th grade reading class to be studying
I've read most of the books on your list. I would second, olaf stapleton, Starmaker; Miller's Canticle for Leibowitz; Clarke's Childhood's End; Ursula Leguin's left hand of darkness. I am a fan of Phillip Dick. Most recently (haven't read much sci fi in a while) William Gibson. 1984 gets my vote for best overall.
Atwood? Octavia Butler?....There are so many greats missing....still I agree these are very good too...just not a definitive list.
What if every conspiracy theory ever imagined was true? Wild & fun story.
In terms of Timeline, it may well be pap, but I liked it. Sci-fi doesn't have to be intellectual to be entertaining.
Peace.
I'd like to see a best of classic SF, best of space opera (hamilton, moran) and so on.
It's good to see that SF readers haven't lost any of their individuality!
doomoftheshem
I love science fiction writing and think it is a great mind expanding genre, and have tried to use it as a motive in my own fiction writing. I have tried to show the fundamental horrors of not being on top of the food chain in my novel called Doom Of The Shem.
Doom Of The Shem is a science fiction novel that incorporates the horror of military action with the unavoidable hostilities that occur when an alien species invades a planet in search of food. The barbarity of war is brought to light by the work achieved by the nurses and medical personnel of the planets inhabitants. While a full blown military action story emerges from an ensuing war that involves the whole planet. It is especially centred on a squad of the planets army forces, who fight the alien invaders. These nasties try to subjugate captured species by genetic manipulation such as in Dr Moreau, and use these creatures to run fast food outlets across their empire, giving out a free plastic toy with every sale of a Happy Hatchling Brain Burger.
doomoftheshem.blogspot.com
You forgot "The Martian Chronicles".
Should see Lem on the list. Star Diaries and Futurological congress are great
The Margarets, by Shari S Tepper
Grass, by Shari S Tepper
Anything by James Tiptree, Jr
Passage, by Connie Willis
Great list!
The 2000 movie by the same name doesn't come close to addressing the complexities of the 1000 page novel.
Cities in Flight - James Blish
The Hyperion Cantos - Dan Simmons
The Forever War - Joe Haldeman
Camouflage - Joe Haldeman
Starship Troopers - Robert A. Heinlein
The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch - Phillip K. Dick
A Deepness In The Sky / A Fire Upon The Deep - Vernor Vinge (this is truly mind-blowing stuff. I laughed, cried, raged, rejoiced. Some of the best literature, SF or otherwise, written in the past century.)
I think your list suffers without any work by Gene Wolfe, long acknowledged as one of the preeminent writers working in the genre. The Book of the New Sun certainly deserves a spot on this list.
But, I'm glad that you left out some of the junk-pop that people are just gobbling up these days, like Alistair Reynolds or Iain M. Banks.
I don't think that Animal Farm or Atlas Shrugged really belong here, and I cringe at the double-dose of Hollywood Crichton.
But, all-in-all, good list! Thanks! Thumbs-up for StumbleUpon!
I have already read some of these novels, but I will try The Hitchhiker’s Guide To The Galaxy and Timeline in a couple of days.
I would also include
The Sheep Look Up by John Brunner
As for my recommendations, I have to include firstly anything by Spider Robinson. All of his stories are very well told, but I have a special fondness for his Callahans stories and the Stardancer series.
I'd like to see Stephen R. Donaldson's "The GAP Sequence", Gordon R. Dickson for most all of his work, but in particular the "Childe Cycle", Roger Zelazny for most everything but in particular "Roadmarks", Jack Vance for his "Demon Series", John Varley - especially "Persistence of Vision" and "Wizard", etc. etc.
Ah well, now I have to go through the comments again and write down the ones I haven't read yet. Thank you for the list and thanks to all the commentors for their suggestions. ;-)
1) Hyperion (Dan Simmons).
2) Doomsday Book (Connie Willis).
3) Gateway (Frederich Pohl).
4)The Gods Themselves (Isaac Asimov).
The last three won the Hugo, Nebula AND Locus awards, so I'd definitely include them in ANY Sci-Fi list...
completely out of the box scifi novel